Bloody Kölner Dom how was it for you?

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ill post the few piccys i took tonight/tomorrow/ my camera got bent to buggerey halfway through the day and is a write off, but the piccys are on the mem card

Yet another casualty of the game!

Thanks to Porta and Tiny for a great days airsofting, first time at this site and thought it was great. Great turn out by the players on both sides and good sportmanship showed by all.
As far as the rules go I thought that they worked really well, the token system was new to me but was a great idea and lead to some really good game play, the low light conditions added to the atmosphere and the molotovs and flamethrowers were brilliant.

After a good nights rest and a lazy morning i have collected my thoughts on the day , and i still loved it , the token system worked really well , the molotovs were great and worked well for both sides , thou the first one i threw i waited for the bang lol , the flame throwers were great fun and helped us yanks out a lot in the very first game where we were pinned down by the crafty German defenders but after seeing so much blood etc i would say face protection is a must , i used a pulled up neck gaiter that worked for me but i know quite a few did not and some paid the price

I was very impressed with no real flare ups that i have seen in cqb and even more so when using full auto , yer a few swear words but nothing nasty and more as a reaction than directed at the shooter etc , but again i think nearly all bursts were short and nearly all at distance (that i saw) , some great game play from both sides not to mention some great blue on blue my botched molotov throw wont be forgotten lol

and as always after a good game we relived our war stories on the way home vie some strange looks at the service station

Like cjw957 I too reflected on the event after a good nights rest and a long lay in this morning, inspite of which I'm still very sore and stiff all over.

I think it was a very good event which I personally enjoyed immensely. Many thanks to the guys for organising it. The games were interesting and exciting. At all the events I have ever been to before, full auto has not been allowed indoors. At this the first one, the results are now evident and I suppose were always predictable if not inevitable. Would I do it again? YES!

You could hear the screams of pain from both teams as some unfortunate caught a packet on an unprotected part of his person. Add to that the darkness in an unfamiliar environment, the grenades and those damned flame throwers ( I was on the German team ) and it all added to a great gaming experience. There was fantastic sportsmanship displayed by both teams. I think every one, at one time or another thought that the other lot were using hot guns or firing long bursts or firing too close. These are all natural reactions given the circumstances of the situation. Thankfully no one gave vent to their anxieties and kicked off at amy time. I think this reflects greatly on the level of maturity and common sense possessed by all those present at this and other WW2 events.

My only memento of the CQB is a welt on my forehead just above my right eyebrow. The BB ricocheted of the rim of my helmet and caught me above the glasses. This was the only part of my face that was not protected So I must have been very unlucky or the fire was THAT fierce.

At other times during the game I received at least four other full auto bursts in my face. luckily I was protected.

As some of you will recall I was wearing a flesh tone face mask. The fallschirmjager with the cigarette. Several people asked me yesterday where they could get one just like mine. . . . Well it's a hand painted one off. You can buy the masks on line but they come as unpainted full face masks and do not fit well with the goggles or the helmets so a bit of work is required to get the finished item.

After prompting from one or two people yesterday I'm now asking how many people out there would be interested in buying one of my finished flesh tone half face masks? They could be made to order and as each one is hand painted you could have it personalised to your specification. If you wear one of the mesh plastic masks, you ought to change to one of these flesh masks. The Darth Vadar immage does spoil the WW2 look. If you are someone who doesn't normally favour face masks at all, you may now consider them to be appropriate especially for CQB games like the one yesterday. Even if you only wear it once during each season for a CQB it's got to be cheaper than the dentist bill that will have to be paid for the repair work needed after an unfortunate burst in the face.

Having discussed the mask with several players yesterday, I talked about what was required to make one and the man hours involved. I asked what they would expect/be prepared to pay for said item. After everyone had their say I decided that £40 would be a reasonable price for the hand painted flesh tone mask made to personal spec. A cheaper option of a flat tone flesh finish spec would cost £25.

Rather than jam this thread up with any requests for face masks, please PM me if you would like to discuss ordering one.

Once again, thanks to the guys for organising yesterdays game. Very bloody and very dangerous but GREAT FUN !!!

Well I visited a dentist this lunchtime. In actual fact the other side of the tooth was also cracked so she pulled that bit out as well, luckily under anesthetic . I was left with a spike.

She patched the spike up with filling stuff and I now have a tooth. I now have to wait and see for a fortnight if the root is okay. So far so good, the anesthetic has worn off, but no major amounts of pain.

So fingers crossed in two weeks she'll just be able to finish off rebuilding the tooth.

Anyway, for Pavlov, I'll definitely be wearing some sort of full face mask. I'm not sure what yet.

Yes I was pushing for Cheeky to make some for us all and I will be on the order list.
You need a thread posting off this section in OFF TOPIC maybe with photos etc.

He could put some online, to show others what we saw.

A few other people have made them, either half or full masks (particularly for their kids) and there are various photos around on the site showing them (naturally I can't remember where)

They are all based on the same 'human face' mask.

For Pavlovs I'll just stick with my gimp mask with maybe some scrim over it. With bolties only the need will be less, but there will still be a couple of MGs in evidence.

Cheers
Martin

I had some good giggles with Martin - sorry for having to leave you comrade friend Martin.

Aside from us I saw no one else dying though, just yelling hit and walking away - getting yelled at for 'DEAD GERMANS GET OUT OF THE WAY!' took all my self control not to simply then walk back in a very slow, straight, deliberate line at the shooter/yeller .

I would have also worn a face-mask if we had gone back out, but we all knew what we were booking onto when we booked on - it was most clearly stated right from the get go. So I thought I would go and try it out. I knew it wasn't 'my type of game', but it was close by and on a Sunday - so no extra time of work, it would be no worse then an open day, and indeed it was not. There is a list of things I could give about the game but that would be less than helpful to anyone. It wasn't for me, and I remember a slightly shocked Porta making the same observation when I booked on - So thanks and well done for making me have fun Porta .
At Pavlov's I will still be tutting at you though Rich, as that one's a 'real deal' game, with low powered rifles.

However, I do have one generally applicable point/question - does it have to be so dark? I actually think it would be improved, both in general gameplay and deffo for Pavlov's 'look and feel', with a bit more light. would it be possible to replace bulbs with like 20 watt ones or something?

Yes 100% agreed... some dim lighting would help tremendously to increase the atmosphere and probably also make it safer.

Aside from us I saw no one else dying though

I like dying, gives me a chance to lie down. I also think it is satisfying for attackers to step over the bodies of the defeated.

I generally just lay there for a minute or two though. Amusingly I got complete shot up just standing up again, so maybe better lighting might help with that.

Cheers
Martin

Having played the first, and last game, that were very similar, but without/with lighting, I thought "dark" suited the venue better.

When the lights were on it was too much "fish in a barrel". I still enjoyed both, but honestly don't think it would translate well to the creeping fear of Pavlov.

No, well the lights that are there right now are way to bright and ruin the atmosphere.

I have to agree with Craig. Some lighting would improve the site and the games quite a bit. The people with mesh goggles suffered the most, particularly on the stair wells. Still, a good day and I'm looking forward to Pavlov's.

Steve.

Point taken on the lighting, i will sort out some low power lights for pavlovs .

This is why i like constructive input, it helps everyones experiance to be better

Thanks chaps

Point taken on the lighting, i will sort out some low power lights for pavlovs .

This is why i like constructive input, it helps everyones experiance to be better

Thanks chaps

Maybe some form of LED cluster or strip or LED rope light could be used as they will be quite BB proof.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cool-White-5M ... 2a262c9b60

Yes I know you want WW2 look but may be some way to do it.

These can run on 110VAC to keep things safe.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10PCS-Cree-E1 ... 5d3aacece3

well sure we were told to to move once hit and go and regen , normally i like the old dying a dramatic death but in the dark and cqb it gets a bit dangerous in the sense if you still stood /propped/ laying there you still going to get shot / stood on etc as could not see much , a shadow if we were lucky , so i am presuming that why they were asking to you probably to move, i think our first couple of molotovs were thrown to try and get some light source from there burning embers it was good int he dark but i agree a bit of ambient lightning would set it off a treat.

the only negative i found if i had to get picky was folks taking others out by bouncing off a wall rather than take direct shots , i think i got killed more like that than any other way but hey ho was same for both sides

i would be tempted by the rifles only game if i could convince another of the 34th to come as well (once we finally get our garands)

the only negative i found if i had to get picky was folks taking others out by bouncing off a wall rather than take direct shots , i think i got killed more like that than any other way but hey ho was same for both sides

Unfortunately I think it is unavaoidable if you are going to stick with 'any hit kills' which avoids lots of arguments and as you say, it was the same for both sides. I guess the main thing is keep the ammo limits low to discourage too much spraying and remind people not to be silly about it.

Cheers
Martin

At one point there was a chap in one of the bunkers. We could not get a bead on him so three of us did do the "ricochet thing". We laid in a shit load of fire on him and he shouted "HIT". As he came out we all suddenly realised that it was a blue on blue incident.

Steve.

In a dark site like that when you don't know where a shot has come from there isn't much choice but to work that way. At one point I thought I had been hit on the head by a molotov but it was a chunk of concrete from the ceiling
So I didn't take that hit